From me to dark site...

The distance from house mine to Grancona. one of the best places that I personally know for luminous pollution low and relatively close to house mine.

Obs construction

The idea was jumped me (does not know if realizable. .dovrei to ask allowed.) to construct a small observatory to me.
continuation place the reassumed one of post (the many and I must here ringraziare several the uenti that han advised) it publishes to me to you on forum.astrofili.org and coelum.com.

It would be a dream. I could have the possibility to construct a small observatory (backyard as the friends would say Americans) in campaign from my uncles.
I must but to ask if they could they give a posticino to me between the fields.
Today enthusiastic Cmq to the idea I have thrown down some rough draft.
that you say some?

This is the version 2 miniums small rooms.

large but. too much .magari. it is already

This instead to single small room.

the idea has been that one to replace the cupola with a rotary roof (in some way makes) easier construction.

That of thoughts?


Then I would put a solar air-vent of that trovan on ebay for I even recirculate of the air and a solar paddle for po of electric power.

The zone where I would want to put it is following:

<>I would even make with a single small room, a pochino larger if you want space, because he is simpler of the double room. On the costs I would not know dirti, the solar paddles for sure electric power six that they convene?

Rather, that house always is inhabited? I would not very trust myself to leave an instrument within one small construction in external wood if he remains alone for long periods… >>

the house nn always is inhabited but we say that nearly always there is someone.
cmq nn creed just that us sian ladri of burlaps in that zone. it is indeed much remote one. my uncles have tractor tools salumi etc all in huts or wine cellars but never nobody has gone.
all are known po those of the zone and cmq indeed are just 5 -6 houses inhabited in the arc of 1 km and more.

as far as the solar paddles beh. nn I know. I had seen of the small solar paddles from camper type. therefore I could use the accumulated energy in the battery if for case served to something.
nn me of it I mean therefore it I have thrown them because nn they cost very. I will ask someone that agrees some if it can serve.

the idea I had taken it also from here:
http://www.freewebs.com/robertfields/observatory.htm
and above all from this.
http://www.jatobservatory.org/
that creed is more figo miniums observatory of the world
watched in the section photo of the observatory and you will see the solar paddles from 11W

some that I had seen eran these here economic.
http://cgi.ebay.it/Pannello-Solare-15-W-Solar-Pannel-15-W_W0QQitemZ140097180036QQcategoryZ58189QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
http://cgi.ebay.it/12-Watt-Pannello-Solare-Batteria-Regolatore-Inverter_W0QQitemZ220093203484QQcategoryZ58189QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

<> show!!! I in mail cosi, if e' buio as he seems, I would construct a plan and then I would take a dobson from 50cm!!! >>

beh buio they were said of.
it is to fifteen or so km from house mine.
here a po of photo of the zone.:
http://www.magicoveneto.it/Berici/panorami/BericiP01.jpg
http://www.magicoveneto.it/Berici/panorami/BericiP02.jpg



this of continuation is just the zone to approximately 50-100 meters from the house of my uncle.
http://www.magicoveneto.it/Berici/panorami/07.jpg
in one of the photos house of the uncles is caught a glimpse…
indicated eccola:
http://forum.astrofili.org/userpix/453_grancona_1.jpg

<>In perline you it will cost understanding them and as soon as you supports to the wall will be troubles…
it uses the “rinds rather”, that 1,5 euro to the meter cost picture.
It remembers but to make one good isolazione to you, they give over, they give under and from sides.

PS: it remembers that you cannot make the foundations you, of it tantomeno one soletta in concrete:
in order to make that concession serves you one building, with a lot of planner, to capocantiere, in charge of the emergency and quant'altro.
You must by force make a structure “supported” and then you will have to berth.
The rinds are those “strisce” of wood with a face “panciuta” that they are left over to the sawmills after to have transformed a log in aces. Being the round log, they advance two rinds every tree, and if they are made beams advance four rinds for every tree. It not obviously finds them to the brico, but from the suppliers of lumber. They cost least and they are sturdy as the aces. When I go in mountain you place the photo of the small house on the tree that the grandfather has made for my great child. Exactly made E' of rinds. Canadian mountain hut seems one…
insomma cutting to tables a log that is registering a square in a O= circle (| |) you will have 4 sides with the corteccia that they are not commercializzabili…

for that price it convene to use them if it is succeeded in reperirli…

for the osb you would have to find that from construction of last choice that would have to cost relatively little, being glue with hill phenolic does not fear the umidita'…>>

<>like anticipated, in perline costera' a slaughter house, and like enough approssimantivo result sara', nobody isolamente thermal, etc…

this small house would have to support on something of similar to of the foundations, made with mattoni and sand, best if it could little be a rising, always that want to make the pavement us…
the better material would be the osb, is those made tables to flakes…
it is idrofugo and it has also better insulating characteristics and then you would make a lot + fastly…

dicci as you want to proceed and how much would be the maximum roof of expense… >>

precise that is cmq still all up sea also because I must before ask. I know nothing foundations. I would plant only the column and then all I would make it raised type the wood small houses door atrezzi I thought.
perline cost a slaughter house then… nothing

to me making 2 expresses accounts they would serve on the 20-25 m^2 of aces…
just to spanne but.

4 walls 1,7x1,8 + pavement + solaietto with circular hole + roof
and then they serve the support rafters roof and pavement.

the “rinds” could be used in order to make almenole walls and the roof… would come outside less than 50 euro than rinds. it knows to me that it is too much little but. nn I can believe to us.
it must see if they succeed to being usable tables. that is I must make one decent what nn a hut because nn it can enter water vespe biwakes etx.

they could be impregnated and be painted then with the sciuma to isolate the remained lights if contained.

<>Hello, for the cover, I would advise classic cupolona to segments the revolving one to you. I know a person whom of it it has made in glass-reinforced plastic for a professional observatory, is a feasible plan. Then, the foundations I would make them absolutely because in the first place they isolate to you from the ground, and then I avoid problems of yieldings of the land. For the photovoltaic cells instead currency well if to put them: in the first place they cost very in connection with the current that it gives to you, second you hold also present that must be used with an appropriate circuit in order to recharge a storage cell… perhaps convene to you to pull a cable of the light from house, even making to pass it underground.
And auguries for the lavoro>>

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More or less there are:
the rinds are without corteccia (the log come scorticati before).
2 types of rinds exist:
those “crude ones” from 1,5 euro to the mq that they leave wide and they end straits, in how much the trees leave wide and end tightened.
Then there are those “crops to you”, to which they come “lengthwise straightens” sides to you with two cuts, and cost the double quantity: 3 euro to the mq.
The large vendors of lumber do not have them only the sawmills but also, those with the “warehouse”.
In order to render an idea, the rinds come used in order “to cover” the bidoncini of immondizia in parks and the natural reservoirs, and also in order to make small fencings or palissades.

I could make therefore…

but that type of material seems to you it has used I am tizio in order to construct the cupola? I do not succeed translate.
http://www.spacegazer.com/building-a-2m-octa-geodesic-dome-g.asp

<>Plywood is compensated.
Then over technical type has used one decoupage.
Paper and diluted vinilica glue. The cupoletta in plywood it could also serve from “stamp” for one in glass-reinforced plastic… >>

<>http://www.firstcor.com/liv3civili.html

they fix on listelli in wood, goes the most common fir used for the roofs in the measure well 5x7. All roba that you can easy find from retailers of materials buildings of your zone.
… and between cartongesso and the wood it remembers to interpose rock wool or a similar insulator…

However, second me, if purchases an old one roulotte to demolition (without plate) and “adapted” spend very less, at least in order to make the walls, the “small house, insomma”.
Indeed, probably it recoveries a-gratis, since to demolish them coast.
Moreover you would have resolved the problem of the “building abuse”…
Test from one sfasciacarrozze.
Then you make the flowing roof or the cupola.>>

<>Better rigid panel insulators type polistirolo high extruded density or polistirene, those in fiber type fiber glass/cliff if they take some humidity drop dry after mesi.>>
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this is a mosaic (ORRIBILE) of photo ch has released just yesterday afternoon in order to show the place to you.
excused for orrenda the union of images but I have is released that joined the haste images…

here some releases of papabili positions for the observatory…

the angle low to right…

this would be perfect as position. among other things it is all an uncultivated Prato. but I do not know of precise if it is of my uncle or of other relatives the land therefore I do not know. but inasmuch as posticino in order to place the montatura and to observe!
http://forum.astrofili.org/userpix/453_DSCN0284_1.jpg

desso end Passover I have examinations then I see what I succeed to arrange.

indeed it would be just beautiful.
sperem.
even if I do not have super burlaps to place I hope to us cmq of being able to me to amuse if I succeed to realize it.

gironzolando for the net, by sheer coincidence, watched that I have found!!!

just similar to my plan!!!!!!!!
well
well
well

here here:
http://www.orionsound.com/Obs_pg5.htm
http://www.orionsound.com/Obs_pg3.htm
http://www.orionsound.com/Obs_pg4.htm


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luminous pollution moolto low. we say that they are approximately 25.30 km from Vicenza - and 10 from city the center more worthy neighbor of the name

for hills degrees cover until approximately 20-25-30 (to the limit) the horizon. if not there were there would be cmq of the citta in distance therefore also better.


I have a etx90 on star-3 (eq3) but I am for upgradarmi to Cg5 motorized with tripod steel + also celestron 102/500

Bresser Skylux: eyepieces

Bresser Skylux include tre Kellner eyepieces: 4, 12 and 20 mmso you can reach 35x, 58x and 175x
There are not the best eyepieces but there aren't so bad for a newbie. In fact often with the some other economic refractor you could find the Huygens ones, worse than the eyepieces they give you with the Skylux.
I fonud only a defect: the inside of the keg is not painting black so you could have some relfection for example seeing the moon (that's very bright).
But it's not a so terrible problem because you've only to colour inside the eyepiece using a permanent black pen.



Generally i found this three Kellner eyepieces good for this kind of telescope.
Only the 4 mm is too much powerful for the Skylux. I think that a 6 mm should be a better choice.

Bresser Skylux: finderscope

The finderscope included with the Meade-Bresser Skylux is a 6x30 mm.
I think it's a very good starfinder(also because it's mounted on a 70/700 refractor) better than the classic 5x24 that you could find in a lot of others economic scope. So it works very well.
It's enough luminous and easily to regoulate with the screws.



I found only a small problem: the plastic support but, as I have already said, it's a economic scope so it's acceptable.

Bresser Skylux: The mount

This is the better thing of this instrument. We could really say that the Bresser Skylux could be acquired also for his mount.
It's an german equatorial mount that could be considered equivalent (if not advanced) to many EQ2 commercialized from famous manufacturers. The cost of this mount if acquired singularly in store exceeds the same price of the complete Skylux. Sincerely I have not found defects. The equatorial head can also be motorized in right ascension. The movements are fluid and precise, without perceptible problems. The two things I don't like are the objects taker and the support of optical tube that seems not so solid as the rest of scope. I have measured the time of stabilization and it is around on 3-4 second with the minimal extension of legs and approximately 5-6 sec with average extension. Very good for an economic telescope mount. I remember that last year I tried the small konus refractor 60mm AZ mounted and it was very unstable. A breath was enough to move it.



Valutation:
Quality: 8
Particulars: 6.5

Bresser Skylux: optical tube

While the weather is so cloudy itry to describe as well as i can the structure and the accessories of this refractor scope.
It's an achromathic telescope with air spaced lens.
The Bresser product are made in China, as most of other scope brand, and built for Meade, famous american company.
So let me see how this brand build his scope for the new amateur astronomers.
It has a 700 mm focal lenght and 70 mm of principal lens. Not so bad for a small refractor, perhaps a very economic one.
For it price you could find 60 or 50 mm scope with AZ mount.
The tube seems to be solid, but the focuser is made in plastic so we couldn't use it to see the sun in projection or it could reach very hight temperature.
Also if made in pvc the focuser is quite precise and make is work well.


In front of the lens there are a good light protection that do it work very well.

Inside the tube we could see 2 diaframs, so also the internal tube is built sufficiently good also because we have always to remember that this telescope is very very economic.

So, finally, i found this optical tube very good considering it price. It has also well one particulars.


Valutation:
Particulars 7
Aspect 7.5
Construction: 8

Now I have Bresser Skylux 70/700 f10

Finally, after a lot of time spent searching the web and waiting for it, i've bought my first telescope, a Bresser Skylux, achromatic refractor with a 70 mm lens and 700 mm focal.
I was very lucky when I found it for only 65 €, while in the shop it cost more or less 100-120 €.. Very good..

The scope

I know it isn't the best but my money are not so much so I hope I will buy aSkywatcher 130 eq2 for my birthday ( 12 June... ).
Now I've to use this also 'cos my mum was not so happy to see a telescope in my room, so think about what she'd say if I had a newtonian 130mm with a 1 meter tube..
Step by step the big scope will arrive and with a bit of time mum will accept the idea.
In the next posts i'd like to publish all my opinions about this and some other instruments I have, because in the net there are few articles about this interesting scope, very appreciated in Germany ( where they call it Lidlscope 'cos sometimes Lidl disconts sell it).

So.. i hope that this blog, post by post could become a point of reference for this scope and for all the amateur astronomers that move the first step in the world of astronomy as me.

For information or if you want to say me something contact me at: davidemarzotto@gmail.com